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Former Homeland secretary on Kristi Noem's responsibility in deadly shootings

NPR's Michel Martin talks to former Homeland Secretary Jeh Johnson about DHS Secretary Kristi Noem's culpability in the deadly shootings by federal agents.

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Michel Martin is the weekend host of All Things Considered, where she draws on her deep reporting and interviewing experience to dig in to the week's news. Outside the studio, she has also hosted "Michel Martin: Going There," an ambitious live event series in collaboration with Member Stations.
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